I'm going to be playing in the Armada tournament over at Tramps, so I'm not sure if I'll make it to this one yet. Depends how I do. If it's looking bad I'll drop from it and head over to Readers for some X-Wing.

I should be there! Got enough stuff to play any kind of game, including enough to let someone else play with if someone is interested in checking the game out!

The main problem was that it just relied on luck too much. Hedron Crab can whiff pretty bad, and did whiff pretty bad often. Shaman becomes the only reliable way to get the engine going, but every smart player simply got rid of it immediately, especially anyone playing red or black. It's very easy to slow the deck down enough to keep it from exploding. Every so often it gets a nice break and lets you attack for 8 or 12 in the first few turns, but it can't do it consistently. Ooze shenanigans are fun but again, it's not that hard to disrupt. I think as far as Vengevine decks go, other color combinations have better tools and can be more consistent. This version is too slow against aggro, not as consistent as the ramp decks, and can't compete with UW Control's toolset.

Regardless of the color combination, Nihil Spellbomb looks like a serious problem for Vengevine decks. It pretty much shut me down completely whenever someone boarded it in. Even worse considering the deck's backup plan(the ooze) also depends on the graveyard.

Quote from: JohnKapp on October 11, 2010, 04:39:57 PM
I'm sure it was the deck.

It was definately the deck I saw the most. Plenty of ramp. A decent amount of RDW/Boros and Mono-Black Control.

I did pretty horrible. As far as Vengevine decks go Dredgevine doesn't seem to be good enough. Wojo made top 8 with U/W, Morty went top 4 with RDW. The finals were the U/W control mirror.

Sweet. I was originally going to stay the weekend and visit family, but they're gonna be busy so I had to change plans.

I'll pop in around 4:30 or 5 tomorrow.

You guys all filled up or are you looking for another carpooler?

Looks like a neat list.

I think I'm gonna stick with what I got for now, though. I like the Ooze shenanigans and I've spent the last week putting together what I have so I don't really want to change the gameplan without even playing it a bit. I think I'm gonna experiment around with Shaman/Vengevine decks for the next little while so I'll have to give that list a try sometime soon.

After a crapload of goldfishing at home I'm finding that most of the time mana seems like it'll be fairly stable so I don't feel I need the Cobras. I'm going to play with 1 or 2 Sylvan Rangers instead, I think.

I'll be there, probably early.

I need a couple of Renegade Dopplegangers if anyone has any they can trade, sell, or lend. I've been messing around at home with my Dredgevine build and I think I like the Dopplegangers over Lotus Cobras so Tempest, I don't think I'll need to borrow those.

I'm going. I'd be interested in carpooling with someone if anyone's looking for a guy to split the gas money with.