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Title: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on March 07, 2011, 04:36:09 PM
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In order to generate some interest into Flames of War in Regina.  I'm going to start a Q&A.
People not in Regina can use it as well.  I'm just looking to get a bigger group in Regina, so we can get some tournaments.
There is a great group in Saskatoon and I will be going up there as often as I can to play.  But I would love to get a group going here.

I've already had a few people asking me questions, so I thought it might be best to post the stuff here for everyone to see.

FoW can be very confusing to get into, and I learned some things the hard way.  I will share what I know.

You can also visit my blog here...it has pictures... :popcorn
http://www.kagefow.blogspot.com/ (http://www.kagefow.blogspot.com/)
You will also find links to other FoW resources.

Where do I start?
First thing you need to do is decide on what force you want to play.
The best way is to decide what era and what country most interests you.

What do you mean by era?
There are 3 era's in FoW.  Early, Mid, and Late war.
Typically Early war is '40-'41, Mid is '42-'43, and late is '44-'45.

What Countries can you play?
A lot of this depends on the era.  Not all countries can be played in all era's.

Late War - Germany, Russia, United Kingdom, American, Canadian, Hungarian, Romanian,

Mid War - Germany, Russia, United Kingdom, American, Italy, Finland, Hungarian, Romanian.
You can build other UK countries like Canada.

Early War - Germany, United Kingdom, France, Poland

How do I build my force?
Once you have an idea of what kind of country you want to play and when, its time to get an Intelligence book.
These are based on era and a theater of combat.  

The one mistake I made getting into this was buying older out of date books.  These books are still valid, but the new updated books you can build the same forces for cheaper.
Typically a force is 1500pts.  With the newer update books I get more bang for my 1500pts then in the older books.  Its not a lot, but in a game it could make a difference if you even get one extra tank or squad.  So here I will list the current books and what they cover.

Eastern Front - This covers the mid war on the Russian Front in 1942 to 1941.  
With this book you can field mid war German, Russian, Finland, Romanian, and Hungarians.

North Africa - This covers the mid war in Africa and Sicily in 1941 - 1942
with this book you can filed mid war German, Italian, American, United Kingdom

Earth & Steel - Late war German Forces in France.
This is a great book and covers all German forces in France.  Even specific units like the Panzer Lehr Division.
Even covers fortifications.  

Turning Tide - This is the opposite of Earth & Steel, and covers allied forces in France 1944.
Includes, British and American forces including some specific units like the 3rd Canadian Infantry Division and 4th Canadian Armored Division.

Blitzkrieg - This is the only early war book, and covers German, British, French, and Polish forces

Fortress Europe - This is a generic all around guild to late war Europe.  Includes all forces in europe like German, British, Russian and American.
But like I said it is very generic and not as good as the books above.

*Late war Eastern front is really covered by 4 books.  
Stalin's Onslaught, Hammer & Sickle, River of Heroes, and Stalin Europe.

There are other books, but I would say these are the main ones.
The best thing is a lot of forces of have lots of cross over.
Most infantry and guns can play all era's with any or much change.
Even a lot of the tanks cross over.  The main difference is the bigger newer tanks don't show up until late war.
But tiger tanks show up in mid and late war, in Africa, eastern and western fronts.
the only thing that might differ is paint.

I wish I would have known a lot of this when I first started.  I love Eastern Front, and as anyone can tell you I also like Russians.
But knowing what I know now, I would have never picked Russians for this game.
I am notoriously slow at painting infantry.  And the soviets would throw hoards of men at the Germans.  
What this means is that a Mid war German Platoon of 40 men is equivalent to a Soviet Company of 120 men.
That is a lot of infantry to paint.  The Romanians and Italians are the same.

But, even still I love this mechanic about the game which I find most WWII game don't do.
And which more realistically represents what the soviets did.  They would throw lots of crappy soldiers at the Germans in hopes to overwhelm their superior tactics and training.

Ok, I have my intelligence hand book...now what?
Now you decide on what force you build.  There are basically 3 types.  Armored, Mechanized, and Infantry.
But there are also lots of different types of each, like Pioneers or special forces.

The best thing about this game is that it is a combined forces game.  You can't win if you just take tanks.  
You can't win if you just take infantry.  No one force is superior to all others, and because it is a combined arms game, decisions need to be made when you build.
FoW is great for building a force that would closely mirror how it would have been built by its country in WWII.

Even if you take an armored force, you need support.  Infantry, Artillery, Air Power, Anti-Air, Anti-tank.  Anything you can think of in WWII, FoW lets you field.
But you can't have it all.  That is where the decisions come in.

How are units rated?
Every unit is given 2 ratings.  Motivation and Skill.  And each of these have 3 levels.
Motivation - Reluctant, Confident, Fearless
This is used for checking moral, how likely that unit is to run, or even if it would assault a scary tiger tank.... :excited

Skill - Conscript, Trained, Veteran
This is used to show how well trained you units are.  Unlike most games its your enemies skill that determines how well you hit.
Its harder to hit Veteran troops then it is conscripts because they hide better.
But this also determines, if your troops succeed at digging foxholes, or removing obstacles such as barbed wire.

So you should be able to see a picture forming here.
Most mid war Soviets are Fearless Conscripts.  Most German units are Confident Veterans.

So a typical soviet company will have 27 teams.  They are extremely easy to hit, but very hard to eliminate from the table because there are so many of them.
The same platoon of Germans will have 8 teams.  It wouldn't take much to remove them from the table, but they are so well trained they are very difficult to hit.  Especially dug in.

MODELING
You don't have to limit your questions to rules about the game.  Feel free to ask modeling questions.  Whether its from Airbrushing to tank markings.
One of my favorite things about FoW is the research.  I've done a lot of research to get things historical.  And if I don't know, I probably have a good idea where to look.

If you have interest, shoot your questions here.  Even if you want to check it out in person, I have everything needed for you to try it.
My door is always open.  Especially if it means spreading this hobby around.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on March 07, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
Ok, so I have my eye on FoW box sets that are American armoured and Canadian armoured and infantry divisions.  If I was to choose the Canadian forces for example, I could play anyone other than early war? 

  Is there really much difference between the British, Canadian and American forces, (except for the obvious country specific military units) other than paint?  Meaning, if I bought a box of Sherman tanks, only paint would indicate what country they're from?

  I think I'd like to have a Canadian force, but that seems ultra rare.  Any reason why?
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on March 08, 2011, 08:14:59 AM
Quote from: squalie on March 07, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
Ok, so I have my eye on FoW box sets that are American armoured and Canadian armoured and infantry divisions.  If I was to choose the Canadian forces for example, I could play anyone other than early war?  

 Is there really much difference between the British, Canadian and American forces, (except for the obvious country specific military units) other than paint?  Meaning, if I bought a box of Sherman tanks, only paint would indicate what country they're from?

 I think I'd like to have a Canadian force, but that seems ultra rare.  Any reason why?

Ya the only real difference between American, British, and Canadian tanks were the markings and paint.
And then the country specific tanks...like the British and Canadian's mounted a 17 lb gun on the Sherman, and that was the know as the Firefly.
Americans didn't do this.

Artillery and infantry there is definitely a difference between American and British.  
And the structure of how they deploy maybe different.  Although I've never looked very closely at the Americans.  

You could buy a box set of American shermans and use them as Canadian shermans.  but you wouldn't get the firefly option.
But you couldn't buy an American army set and use the infantry as Canadians.  the uniforms and guns would be wrong.

Nothing ultra rare about the Canadians.  The Canadians didn't 'really' show up until late war.  They did have a bit of a showing in Italy and the one failure at Dieppe.  And there are some rules in North Africa book to create a Canadian force.

But where they are really prevalent is in the Turning Tide book.  Half the British section is all Canadians.  3rd Infantry division, and 4th Armored Division.

It just might seem like there are no Canadians to buy because you just use British units.  they were equipped the same.

Again the only difference between British and Canadian tanks is markings.  For infantry and Artillery there is no difference.  If you build a Canadian force you just use British units.  The difference is the uniform color.  Even though they had the same uniform and equipment, the fabric to make those uniforms was different so it was a different color.

But, even if you painted your force british colors and used them as Canadians no one would know the difference.  And vice versa.
It all depends on how historical you want to get with your modeling.
nothing says you can build British and say they are Canadians.  But the Canadians do have their own special ratings and rules.

Its not just as simple as saying "I'm playing Canadians".  Every country has its own unique special rules to give it a unique flavor of playing that country.

If you are thinking about Canadians, British, and/or Americans...Turning Tide is definitely the book you want.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Allan Luesink on March 08, 2011, 10:28:31 PM
You're right about FoW being confusing to get into but it is a cool game.  I appreciate the quick overview of the books.  I bought the main rule book and at some point will be likely buying a late war army book.  However, I won't buy any models.  That's the deal I struck with my friend.  I'll play but I'm not buying the models - I'm already too invested into WHFB.

Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on March 09, 2011, 07:47:40 AM
Allan, you could always trade some of your Warhammer to get a FoW force.  Just sayin' is all ;)  We have a bunch of good guys here and it's be nice to get them together and pound those Germans back home -- unless you're Germans of course. :D
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on March 09, 2011, 08:28:27 AM
I've added to the top...

you don't have to limit your questions to rules. 

I can also help with modeling tips.

Whether its air brushing, or you want to make your models look more historical.

One of the coolest things about this hobby is the research.  but not everyone likes to do that.
So, I can help with that as well.  Even just a simple thing like uniform colors. 

I know its hard to believe, but I don't know everything.  :confused
If I don't know the answer, I'm in contact with a lot of FoW modelers, so I can probably find out.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on March 18, 2011, 08:47:10 AM
There is going to be a FoW doubles tournament in Saskatoon in April.
So far its looking like April 23rd, if anyone is interested.

you and your partner will each build LW 1000pt armies and field them at the same time.
allies have to go with allies.  So, Germans can't be paired with Americans.

Maybe Dean and Don could put a team in?  :thumb-up
We can get together a couple times before to show Don how to play....or anyone else that is interested.

Someone will post on the Dragon's Den board once we finalize everything.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Bob Newis on March 18, 2011, 10:37:39 AM
I'd be interested in something like this if they do another one later in the year. April is too busy for me to make this one.

Bob
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on March 21, 2011, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: Bob Newis on March 18, 2011, 10:37:39 AM
I'd be interested in something like this if they do another one later in the year. April is too busy for me to make this one.

Bob

We are planning one in June for sure. 
Looking like could be Late war 1500 - 1750 points

And then there is a Con in October, where we will be playing FoW.

Looks like the one in April is the 23rd for sure.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Dean Dodge on October 31, 2011, 09:48:34 AM
Hi Kage, are you going to do FOW at the FRAGcon this spring? I would be  up for playing. We are going to run warhammer as well so if we can arrange  to have those at different times I would love that.

For FOW if you needed extra terrain feel free to use what ever I have.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on October 31, 2011, 10:11:44 AM
Quote from: Dean Dodge on October 31, 2011, 09:48:34 AM
Hi Kage, are you going to do FOW at the FRAGcon this spring? I would be  up for playing. We are going to run warhammer as well so if we can arrange  to have those at different times I would love that.

For FOW if you needed extra terrain feel free to use what ever I have.

I'm sure I can be persuaded.

I've been doing a lot of painting...will have some fancy new units to show off.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Dean Dodge on October 31, 2011, 02:04:50 PM
Howdy,  I think you've mentioned that you do some painting with an airbrush. What kind of airbrush woudl you suggest. I've got about 50 vehicles and 100 stands of 15mm guys to paint.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on October 31, 2011, 02:47:52 PM
Quote from: Dean Dodge on October 31, 2011, 02:04:50 PM
Howdy,  I think you've mentioned that you do some painting with an airbrush. What kind of airbrush woudl you suggest. I've got about 50 vehicles and 100 stands of 15mm guys to paint.

Buy a cheap one from Hong Kong.

A lot of painters will tell you to buy the most expensive ones.  That is total BS.

A good airbrush can run you $200 -$300
the ones from hong kong are almost the same, but I bought 4 for $100 including shipping

Especially if you are new...view airbrushing like Russians infantry.

You WILL break your first one.  would you rather break a $300 one or a $25 one?

for this scale you definitely want to go with a Duel action 3mm or 3.5mm.

I go with 3.5mm for varnish and base coat
3mm for infantry and detailing.
2mm one for fine camo lines.

you'll also need a compressor and a moisture trap.

lots of good kits on E-bay.

If you don't want to order on line and want to try right away,  Princess Auto has a good 3.5mm airbrush.
Great for a first timer.  The only thing I don't like  about it, is that it is a Suction feed.

I prefer Gravity fed.  Way less paint,  way less problems.  but they are more expensive.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Dean Dodge on November 01, 2011, 09:14:36 PM
Fantastic good info. I appreciate it very much. As I age I'm finding it hard to paint 15mm at all. I've even started collecting 1/32 (54mm) ww2 stuff to play with and paint.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on November 02, 2011, 08:15:53 AM
Quote from: Dean Dodge on November 01, 2011, 09:14:36 PM
Fantastic good info. I appreciate it very much. As I age I'm finding it hard to paint 15mm at all. I've even started collecting 1/32 (54mm) ww2 stuff to play with and paint.

If you do get one, a little tip of the trade.  Use Windex to thin your paint.

And I find Tamyia paints work best through an airbrush.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Dean Dodge on November 02, 2011, 03:10:56 PM
I was looking at buying a $35 starter one from redline hobby today. I bought a bunch of 54mm ww2 soldiers instead. I'm doing soem 54mm ww2 skirmish games for a while it seems.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on November 02, 2011, 03:24:24 PM
Quote from: Dean Dodge on November 02, 2011, 03:10:56 PM
I was looking at buying a $35 starter one from redline hobby today. I bought a bunch of 54mm ww2 soldiers instead. I'm doing soem 54mm ww2 skirmish games for a while it seems.

If its the one I'm thinking of, that is a single action brush. 
Probably fine for 54mm scale.

that is a 5mm tip.  pretty big for 15mm.

And single action means its on or off.  You have no control over air flow.

Those are good to learn on, because its pretty hard to screw up the nozzle.

Honestly I'd go to the Princess auto.  You can get a duel action one for the same price.
or the single action one for $15.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Dean Dodge on November 03, 2011, 03:11:32 PM
Thanks. I might make it there tomorrow.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on November 04, 2011, 07:58:30 AM
maybe i'll do an airbrushing demo on my blog.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on January 06, 2013, 02:16:36 PM
Ok, I'm going to say pretty much everything I said in the first post almost 2 years ago.  I have the Warhammer armies I need and I'd like to get into FoW.

  As I said originally, I want to play British, and Canadians specifically if possible.  I have the 3rd ed mini rulebook, and noticed that the Canadian 3rd armourd Division army box set is no longer available.  How would I find one and is it even necessary?  Can I just piece it together?  I'm thinking maybe there would be a more friendly Canadian list anyways as maybe some of those units are poo.

  I'm talking out of ignorance as the only game I've ever watched was the one with you and Dean a couple years ago Curtis.  I know NOTHING about the game and even less about what units to buy to make a fun Canadian/British list.  But, as I said there are a few good fellows in Saskatoon and Regina playing and I want to be a part of it.

  Any more advice for a Canadian newbie would be awesome.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on January 07, 2013, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: squalie on January 06, 2013, 02:16:36 PM
Ok, I'm going to say pretty much everything I said in the first post almost 2 years ago.  I have the Warhammer armies I need and I'd like to get into FoW.

  As I said originally, I want to play British, and Canadians specifically if possible.  I have the 3rd ed mini rulebook, and noticed that the Canadian 3rd armourd Division army box set is no longer available.  How would I find one and is it even necessary?  Can I just piece it together?  I'm thinking maybe there would be a more friendly Canadian list anyways as maybe some of those units are poo.

  I'm talking out of ignorance as the only game I've ever watched was the one with you and Dean a couple years ago Curtis.  I know NOTHING about the game and even less about what units to buy to make a fun Canadian/British list.  But, as I said there are a few good fellows in Saskatoon and Regina playing and I want to be a part of it.

  Any more advice for a Canadian newbie would be awesome.

There are some very good Canadian lists now.  Canadian specific lists.  Not just add or subtract points if you want to use Canadians.
But there are no Canadian specific models.  Never have been.

Even the 3rd Canadian box set didn't have Canadian specific figs in it.  They were all British.
The way you distinguish the Canadians is by painting.  Their uniforms were British but they were a bit different colour because they used fabric from Canada.  If your eye-site is good enough you can also paint Canadian patches on the arms.  The tanks will be painting the same as British tanks, but they will have Canadian markings on them.

I've been working on some Canadian lists, I can help you with one, and then help you figure out which units you need to buy.

Lance also plays Canadians and he can also help you with that.  I believe he may even be hosting a tournament in February.

I should have you over for a game I actually haven't played in a few months.  The game has changed a lot since last time we played.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on January 07, 2013, 12:41:21 PM
I'm heading to Saskatoon this weekend and I have some store credit to burn. What are some "for sure" units I could buy in regards to British units? You know - the good stuff. ;)
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on January 07, 2013, 02:13:38 PM
Turning Tide (D-Day) is the book you want.  Or North Africa for Mid War Canadians.

British Rifle Platoons (at least 2 or 3)
British Armoured Platoon (comes with 4 Shermans and 1 firefly.)
British Machine gun platoon
6 lb or 17 lb Anti-tank gun platoon
Field Battery, Royal Artillery (25 lb'ers)

that should be a good start.



Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on January 09, 2013, 04:31:44 PM
Really enjoy playing the 4th Armoured Green machine & the Regina Rifles (have both).
Market Garden is due this weekend as is Bridge by Bridge - two new books full of 'new' lists. In Market Garden there appears to be a new CV Canadian Armoured list - think it's the South Alberta Regiment with Fireflies!
There is a tournament in Saskatoon this very weekend and Kage is correct there is a tournament in Regina this Febuary. However, if you are looking to get back into the game sooner we are having a Total War game next Saturday (the 19th) at Tramps here in town. I could loan you some Canadians - say, 2k worth?
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on January 09, 2013, 07:38:30 PM
I read about the Market Garden book today and decided to see what was in there before purchasing.  BUT, I am in Saskatoon this weekend, at the Den on Saturday to have a Warhammer game.  Maybe I won't be playing a game as there may be no space, but I'll be able to watch so this will be perfect.  I'll also make the tourney in Regina I think but may be in the Toon again on the 19th.

  How many guys at the Den this weekend?  If it's full I won't bother bringing my Warhammer stuff, I'll just spend some time watching.

  Thanks for the help lads!
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on January 10, 2013, 08:53:18 AM
Sounds great- would love to have you at the tournament in February! The Regina tournament is free but lists (1780) are required 1 week prior (gives me a chance to review any special rules and see where the Axis Allies #'s are = as red on blue games are preferred)
The tournament in Saskatoon is not full as far as I know. Lists (1780) are not required prior and there is a $15.00 buy in - Jeff is hosting the event.
Any chance you are able to make the Total War game on the 19th - no, wait it seems you are back in Saskatoon that weekend. To bad great way to meet some of the gang, get back into the swing, and no pressure.
Also, if you pick up the Turning Tide book this weekend --> when they bring it out again (updated) this summer you get it for 1/2 off...or, you could wait for the new one.
Also, here is a link you might find useful:
http://sask.games/index.php?topic=2328.0
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on January 16, 2013, 01:20:35 PM
Quote from: squalie on January 09, 2013, 07:38:30 PM
I am in Saskatoon this weekend, at the Den on Saturday to have a Warhammer game. How many guys at the Den this weekend?  If it's full I won't bother bringing my Warhammer stuff, I'll just spend some time watching.

How was the Den this past weekend?
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on January 19, 2013, 08:26:35 AM
I never made it up.  I ended up working for the weekend and missed a bunch of Warhammer and FoW.  How did the event go?

I'm going up the 26th and I'm going to pick up some things that are on the list Curtis wrote.  I'm also trading on Bartertown for some British FoW stuff.  I have a guy that has 6 Sherman III's.  Could I use those or do they have to be Sherman V's?  I'm guessing people generally play late war?

  Here's a link to an example of what he showed me. http://www.bartertown.com/trading/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=185513
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on January 21, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
you can use III's.  A sherman is a sherman.

The difference in numbers were usually things like how they made the metal, like casted or rolled plate.
I think some were also Gasoline while others were Diesel.

More specifically the Sherman V was longer then the Sherman III because the engine was different or something.
Can't remember.

but as far as FOW is concerned, the stats are the same. I think... :D
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on January 21, 2013, 03:17:08 PM
So, just to be clear - there is no Sherman V model and a seperate Sherman III model?  Shermans come in boxes and then you just designate what they are, except for Fireflies that have the bigger barrel?  If that's the case, I'll make the trade.  He also mentioned he had the following:

I have 3-4 platoons of Cromwells with Firefly support, Sextons, Kangaroos, and 1 Sherman platoon. Also have some Canadian inf.... Unpainted I have Bren carriers, CW inf, and the big Brit boom boom artillery, (will have to check the box as its a discontinued box set.)
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on January 21, 2013, 11:13:34 PM
Quote from: squalie on January 21, 2013, 03:17:08 PM
So, just to be clear - there is no Sherman V model and a seperate Sherman III model?  Shermans come in boxes and then you just designate what they are, except for Fireflies that have the bigger barrel?  If that's the case, I'll make the trade.  He also mentioned he had the following:

I have 3-4 platoons of Cromwells with Firefly support, Sextons, Kangaroos, and 1 Sherman platoon. Also have some Canadian inf.... Unpainted I have Bren carriers, CW inf, and the big Brit boom boom artillery, (will have to check the box as its a discontinued box set.)

lol oh no I never said that.  There are most definitely different models for the different shermans, however their stats are exactly the same in the game.
Except for a few of us crazy people I doubt you would find anyone else could tell the difference anyway.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on January 29, 2013, 02:27:24 PM
Quote from: squalie on January 21, 2013, 03:17:08 PM
I'll make the trade. 
So squalie - have you made the trade? Would you like some help with your list (codex) for the Regina Feb tournament?
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on April 29, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
So - I did it.  I bought the discontinued 3rd Canadian Division Rifle box set and the British 7th armoured box set.  I'm going to pick up some 5.5 and 25pdr, and apparently - I need some Challengers.

  Either way, the models will be here soon so I suppose it's time to start learning the game! :D
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on April 30, 2014, 08:39:32 AM
 :thumb-up
Welcome to the game/club! Now, just have to get you trained up to smash/destroy those nasty German players!
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on April 30, 2014, 08:46:39 AM
Quote from: squalie on April 29, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
So - I did it.  I bought the discontinued 3rd Canadian Division Rifle box set and the British 7th armoured box set.  I'm going to pick up some 5.5 and 25pdr, and apparently - I need some Challengers.

  Either way, the models will be here soon so I suppose it's time to start learning the game! :D

Its about freaking time!
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on April 30, 2014, 08:27:18 PM
Quote from: Kage on April 30, 2014, 08:46:39 AM
Quote from: squalie on April 29, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
So - I did it.  I bought the discontinued 3rd Canadian Division Rifle box set and the British 7th armoured box set.  I'm going to pick up some 5.5 and 25pdr, and apparently - I need some Challengers.

  Either way, the models will be here soon so I suppose it's time to start learning the game! :D

Its about freaking time!

  I deserve that.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on May 01, 2014, 09:15:00 AM
It's all good - you are on the right path now!
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on May 01, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
They have this box at Tramps for $75. Is this a good buy for me

http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1538
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on May 02, 2014, 09:38:42 AM
yup that is a good fit.  They are more effective if you have 2 sets of them.  :D
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on May 05, 2014, 03:13:36 PM
4 guns will do just fine - for now
- but I also have 8 myself as they cover a wider area.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on May 16, 2014, 08:58:39 AM
How goes the painting & assembly Squalie?
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on May 17, 2014, 09:26:45 PM
Well, today I bought the Overlord British/USA book.  300 pages of coolness.

  When I got home I took count of what I have so far:

1 jeep
2 Crusader
4 Sherman
3 Firefly
8 Cromwell
4 Sexton
6 Defrocked Priest
4 M5 Halftrack
2 M10 3"
6 Universal Carrier
3 Wasp Carrier
4 25pdr

Lots of:

Rifle/MG teams
Piat
Mortar
Vickers
Observer team

  What else should I get?  Knowing that "should" is a subjective term.  I think I'd like Challengers and go as much "straight" British as possible, or am I just confused about all of this?

  There's so many darn things to choose from in the Overlord book that I'm a little overwhelmed.  Does it make much of a difference if I make a very themed army tied to a particular group; Desert Rats, Polish, 12th Manitoba Dragoons, 4th Canadian Armoured, etc?

   I went to watch the event at the Dragons Den today in Saskatoon and it looked awesome. Seemed like nice guys, but I didn't bother with too many questions as they were obviously fighting a war! :D
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on May 26, 2014, 08:54:21 AM
Think you will enjoy the Challengers - don't hesitate to ask any questions.
In a while you will wonder why you were overwhelmed at all ;)
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: squalie on June 17, 2014, 09:32:55 PM
Ok, so everything is pretty much glued together and now on to painting. 

  I'm trying to find spray paint that'll match late war armoured British - with no luck.  I bought a jar of Tamiya X-51 or whatever that Kage recommended on his site.  Should I just get an airbrush?  Do you prime before airbrushing the Tamiya paint?

  I want to make sure this is as accurate as possible.

  Another thing;  I put together the M5 half tracks and I can't figure out what models go on what %#$&@!* bases for the motor platoon.  :confused  Do I just try to match the silhouette's on the army list?
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on June 18, 2014, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: squalie on June 17, 2014, 09:32:55 PM
Ok, so everything is pretty much glued together and now on to painting. 

  I'm trying to find spray paint that'll match late war armoured British - with no luck.  I bought a jar of Tamiya X-51 or whatever that Kage recommended on his site.  Should I just get an airbrush?  Do you prime before airbrushing the Tamiya paint?
There is a spray paint available (Battlefront) - none of us use it. Which would make your tanks stand out
Airbrush - Kage swears by them - none of the rest of us use one
Prime - most of the guys do so (I don't)
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on June 18, 2014, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: squalie on June 17, 2014, 09:32:55 PM

  I want to make sure this is as accurate as possible.

Understandable - understand though that tanks aren't washed often and drive through a tonne of dust dirt and mud so will be slightly off colours until washed clean. Also, while batches of paint are made at the same factories variations will still happen. Also, some will be brand new and othes will have been out in the sun for a while.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on June 18, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: squalie on June 17, 2014, 09:32:55 PM

  Another thing;  I put together the M5 half tracks and I can't figure out what models go on what %#$&@!* bases for the motor platoon.  :confused  Do I just try to match the silhouette's on the army list?
You know I started a brand new thread so you could post pictures as I cannot help you with this one as I cannot see what you are talking about. However, I am guessing that you are trying to match up what is ion the platoon with the book - yes, use the silouettes. However, don't put 5 guys on the base = unnessasry & very crowded -> 4 is enough.
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Kage on June 18, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
I do everything with an airbrush.   Prime, base coat, camouflage, and Varnish.

The only thing I do by hand is fine details of the model, and highlights.

For tanks I actually prime with the basecoat colour or a flat white if i'm running out of the basecoat colour. 

All with Tamia paints.  And I thin my paint with windex.

X-51 most closely matches the Russian Uniform 924 Vallego colour that Battlefront suggests for British Tank colours.  If you don't like it, it is very easy to mix paint for airbrushing.

Here is the latest thing I airbrushed;
Grey and Green camo is done with an airbrush, the detail and highlights are done with a brush.
The black lines are done with a Tech Pen.

(https://sask.games/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.ggpht.com%2F--UGgS1A1k9s%2FU1_YfQtnfLI%2FAAAAAAAAFGg%2FDXZc1oJQ1_g%2Fs640%2FFB_IMG_13985288627040755.jpg&hash=b0680520b6d0f46df8e82b6b0982552f2dedee17)
Title: Re: Flames of War - Q&A
Post by: Lance on June 18, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Quote from: Kage on June 18, 2014, 11:59:33 AM

All with Tamia paints.  And I think my paint with windex.
Interesting would never have "thought" that ;)